Used 1912 PRE-WWI Winchester Model 1885 Winder Training Musket Hi-Wall 22LR 28"

SCARCE Winchester 1885 22 LR U.S. Military

1912 Winchester Repeating Arms Model 1885 Winder Training Musket Hi-Wall .22 LR Blued & Walnut in Good Condition Thumbnail
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Key Features

  • Item Type: Single Shot Rifles
  • Action: Falling Block
  • Manufacturer: Winchester Repeating Arms
  • Capacity: 1 rd
  • Model: Model 1885
  • Barrel Length: 28"
  • Caliber: .22 LR
  • Finish: Blued & Walnut
  • Overall Condition: Good
  • Year Manufactured: 1912

Product Description

    Winchester Model 1885 Winder Training Musket Hi-Wall .22 LR Single-Shot Rifle – 28" Barrel, Case-Hardened Receiver, 1913 Production

    This First Model Winchester 1885 Winder Training Musket is a scarce Hi-Wall variant built in 1913 for U.S. military marksmanship training. Chambered in .22 LR with a 28-inch steel barrel and a strong falling-block action by John Browning, only about 5,800 of these rifles were produced, making surviving examples desirable to collectors. The rifle retains its original blued finish, case-hardened receiver, and full walnut stock, preserving the classic appearance that set the Winder muskets apart.

    Condition

    Overall Condition: Good condition, showing some signs of prior use and handling.
    Bore Overall Condition: Poor - Noticeable dirt, stains, significant corrosion or damage.
    Bore Fouling: Moderate Fouling - Lead or copper fouling with noticeable buildup.
    Bore Rifling: Poor Rifling - Rifling heavily worn or filled with fouling or debris.

    There are visible scuffs, dings, and general finish wear on both the metal surfaces and the walnut stock.

    What’s Included

    • Winchester Model 1885 Winder Training Musket Hi-Wall rifle

    Designed by John Browning, the Model 1885 action is known for its inherent strength and crisp, positive lock-up. This Hi-Wall configuration uses that action to anchor the 28-inch barrel firmly, giving trainees a stable, accurate platform for small-bore practice.

    The rifle’s military heritage is evident in its ladder-style rear sight and blade front sight, mirroring the sight picture of service rifles of the era. This feature helped soldiers transition smoothly from rimfire practice to full-power service arms.

    A walnut stock with a 13.5-inch length of pull gives the rifle classic American sporting lines while withstanding rigorous training environments. The case-hardened receiver still displays muted color patterns under the patina, highlighting Winchester’s period craftsmanship.

    With production limited to roughly 5,800 units, authentic First Model Winder muskets are considered rare. The documented 1913 manufacture date and intact patent and trademark markings (reading “PAT. OCT. 7TH 79 – WINCHESTER – TRADE MARK”) provide clear historical context for collectors focused on pre-World War I U.S. military training arms.

Specifications

Item TypeSingle Shot Rifles
ManufacturerWinchester Repeating Arms
ModelModel 1885
SubmodelWinder Training Musket Hi-Wall
Caliber.22 LR
Overall ConditionGood
Bore ConditionPoor
ActionFalling Block
Capacity1 rd
Barrel Length28"
FinishBlued & Walnut
Sight/Opticiron
Year Manufactured1912
Country of OriginUnited States

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