Winchester Model 1885 Winder Training Musket Hi-Wall .22 LR Single-Shot Rifle – 28" Barrel, Case-Hardened Receiver, 1913 Production
This First Model Winchester 1885 Winder Training Musket is a scarce Hi-Wall variant built in 1913 for U.S. military marksmanship training. Chambered in .22 LR with a 28-inch steel barrel and a strong falling-block action by John Browning, only about 5,800 of these rifles were produced, making surviving examples desirable to collectors. The rifle retains its original blued finish, case-hardened receiver, and full walnut stock, preserving the classic appearance that set the Winder muskets apart.
Condition
Overall Condition: Good condition, showing some signs of prior use and handling.
Bore Overall Condition: Poor - Noticeable dirt, stains, significant corrosion or damage.
Bore Fouling: Moderate Fouling - Lead or copper fouling with noticeable buildup.
Bore Rifling: Poor Rifling - Rifling heavily worn or filled with fouling or debris.
There are visible scuffs, dings, and general finish wear on both the metal surfaces and the walnut stock.
What’s Included
- Winchester Model 1885 Winder Training Musket Hi-Wall rifle
Designed by John Browning, the Model 1885 action is known for its inherent strength and crisp, positive lock-up. This Hi-Wall configuration uses that action to anchor the 28-inch barrel firmly, giving trainees a stable, accurate platform for small-bore practice.
The rifle’s military heritage is evident in its ladder-style rear sight and blade front sight, mirroring the sight picture of service rifles of the era. This feature helped soldiers transition smoothly from rimfire practice to full-power service arms.
A walnut stock with a 13.5-inch length of pull gives the rifle classic American sporting lines while withstanding rigorous training environments. The case-hardened receiver still displays muted color patterns under the patina, highlighting Winchester’s period craftsmanship.
With production limited to roughly 5,800 units, authentic First Model Winder muskets are considered rare. The documented 1913 manufacture date and intact patent and trademark markings (reading “PAT. OCT. 7TH 79 – WINCHESTER – TRADE MARK”) provide clear historical context for collectors focused on pre-World War I U.S. military training arms.




